Betty Boop and Talkatoons in public domain?

[vallygurl888]

Does anybody have a complete list of all Betty Boop and/or Talkatoons in the public domain? I've already seen seen several incomplete list of Betty Boop but any incomplete list of Talkatoons would be helpful.

[vallygurl888]

Here is the INCOMPLETE list I made if anyone is intrested:
Mysterious Mose????
Sin for Your Sinners???
Hollywood Mystery???
A Language all my Own
A Little Soap and Water
A Song a Day
Baby Be Good
Be Human
Betty and Grampy
Betty and Henry
Betty in Blunderland
Betty’s Big Boss
The Candid Candidate
Chess-Nuts
Crazy Inventions
Ding Dong Doggie
Grampy’s Indoor Outing
Happy You and Merry Me.
The Hot Air Salesman
House Cleaning Blues
I'll Be Glad When You're Dead You Rascal You (1932)
Impractical Joker
Is My Palm Read
Judge for a Day.
Ker Choo
The Kids in the Shoe
Little Jimmy
Little King
Little Nobody
Making Stars
Minnie The Moocher
More Pep
Morning, Noon and Night
Musical Mountaineers
My Friend the Monkey
No! No! 1000 Times No
Not Now
The Old Man of the Mountain (1933)
On With the New
Parade of the Wooden Soldiers
Poor Cinderella
Pudgy Making Friends
Pudgy Takes a Bow Wow
Pudgy Picks a Fight
Rhythm on the Reservation
Rise To Fame
Scared Crows
She Wronged Him Right
Somewhere in Dreamland
Snow White
Stop That Noise
Swat That Fly
Training Pigeons
We Did It
Whoops I'm a Cowboy
You're Not Built that Way

[bettyboopfan]

The following QUOTE is posted with other information at this link:
http://www.bettyboop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2078

Hi all, and welcome to this sparkling new forum.

In this thread I'm going to revise the material I posted in the Chit Chat Lounge. I compiled it in a hurry, and there were errors. I hope to correct most of them.

Please post comments and corrections. The last thing I want to do is monopolise the thread.

Because a fair proportion of posters speak UK English, and it's my natural language, I intend using UK spelling (colour rather than color). However, if there are any strong feelings about this I can switch to US English if required.

I'll start with a filmograpy. This includes both talkartoons and cartoons. I'll explain the difference between talkartoons and cartoons later, and I'll deal with screen songs later.

I'll list the shorts in release order. I won't state month of release as this is often debatable. The shorts weren't necessarily released in the order they were made.

I've put question marks after Hot Dog and Accordion Joe. The former starred "Bimbo and a pretty girl" and the latter "Bimbo and a woman" but the female character in either case is not identifiably Betty (although she probably was). I've done the same for The Herring Mystery Case because Betty wasn't in her normal form but had a small part as a very pretty fish.

Betty also appeared as a cat in the screen song Any Little Girl That's A Nice Little Girl (1931).

1929
Accordion Joe (?)

1930
Hot Dog (?)
Dizzy Dishes
Barnacle Bill the Sailor
Mysterious Mose

1931
The B*m Bandit
Silly Scandals
The Herring Mystery Case (?)
Bimbo's Initiation
Bimbo's Express
Minding the Baby
Mask-A-Raid
Jack and the Beanstalk
Dizzy Red Riding Hood

1932
Any Rags
Boop-Oop-a-Doop
The Robot
Minnie the Moocher
S.O.S
Crazy Town
The Dancing Fool
A-Hunting We Will Go
Chess-Nuts
Hide and Seek
Admission Free
Betty Boop Limited
Stopping the Show
Betty Boop's Bizzy Bee
Betty Boop M.D.
Betty Boop’s Bamboo Isle
Betty Boop's Ups and Downs
Betty Boop for President
I'll Be Glad When Your Dead, You Rascal You
Betty Boop's Museum

1933
Betty Boop's Ker-Choo
Betty Boop's Crazy Inventions
Is My Palm Read
Betty Boop's Penthouse
Snow-White
Betty Boop's Birthday Party
Betty Boop's May Party
Betty Boop's Big Boss
Betty Boop in Mother Goose Land
Popeye the Sailor
The Old Man of the Mountain
Poor Cinderella
I Heard
Morning, Noon and Night
Betty Boop's Hallowe'en Party
Parade of the Wooden Soldiers

1934
She Wronged Him Right
Red Hot Mama
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Betty in Blunderland
Betty Boop's Rise to Fame
Betty Boop's Trial
Betty Boop's Lifeguard
There's Something About a Soldier
Betty Boop's Little Pal
Betty Boop's Prize Show
Keep in Style
When My Ship Comes In

1935
Baby Be Good
Taking the Blame
Stop That Noise
Swat The Fly
No! No! A Thousand Times No!
A Little Soap and Water
A Language All My Own
Betty Boop and Grampy
Judge For A Day
Making Stars
Betty Boop and Henry, the Funniest Living American

1936
Little Nobody
Betty Boop and the Little King
Not Now
Betty Boop and Little Jimmy
We Did It
A Song Day
More Pep
You're Not Built That Way
Happy You and Merry Me
Training Pigeons
Grampy's Indoor Outing
Be Human
Making Friends

1937
House Cleaning Blues
Whoops! I'm a Cowboy
The Hot Air Salesman
Pudgy Takes a Bow-Wow
Pudgy Picks a Fight
The Impractical Joker
Ding Dong Doggie
The Candid Candidate
Service With a Smile
The New Deal Show
The Fox Hunter
Zula Hula

1938
Riding the Rails
Be Up to Date
Honest Love and True
Out of the Ink Well
Swing School
Pudgy and the Lost Kitten
Buzzy Boop
Pudgy the Watchman
Buzzy Boop at the Concert
Sally Swing
On with the New
Pudgy in Thrills and Chills

1939
My Friend the Monkey
So Does an Automobile
Musical Mountaineers
The Scared Crows
Rhythm on the Reservation
Yip Yip Yippy

1980
Betty Boop For President (compilation)

1985
Hurray for Betty Boop (compilation)

1988
Who Framed Roger Rabbit

1989
The Romance of Betty Boop

2004
Betty Boop and the Girls of Mischief


My thanks to Neckless, who was the first (as far as I know) to post a full filmography in the Chit Chat Lounge.

Mooch

[vallygurl888]

No, it's not. Do you even understand what this thread is about?

[bettyboopfan]

No it's not what? Are you talking to me? If so, I understand perfectly and I do hope you are not being rude. :D

[vallygurl888]

No it's not what? Are you talking to me? If so, I understand perfectly and I do hope you are not being rude. :D
No, it's not posted with the other information at that link. That is the filmography, I was asking what cartoons are in the public domain. Clearly you don't understand.

[bettyboopfan]

I was referring to the "quote" I posted was listed there with other information at the link. And yes vallygurl888 I completely understand. And you are out of line coming here being rude to me.
That is not acceptable here at the forum.
I ask that you do not continue to display that kind of behavior. Thank you and have a nice day.

[vallygurl888]

I was referring to the "quote" I posted was listed there with other information at the link. And yes vallygurl888 I completely understand. And you are out of line coming here being rude to me.
That is not acceptable here at the forum.
I ask that you do not continue to display that kind of behavior. Thank you and have a nice day.
What kind of behavior? YOU DID NOT POST ANY INFORMATION ABOUT PUBLIC DOMAIN. Just admit it and let it go.

[mgchan]

vallygurl888 > Whether one doesn't understand you or not, there is no need to answer back in a smart or sarcastic manner. The answer from you should've been, "Moocher's list is of all BB cartoons. I'm only interested in cartoons that are in the public domain, meaning no one owns them. Thanks for trying to help me." There is a civil way to conduct postings.

The Moocher might be able to help with identifying the ones in PD.

[vallygurl888]

vallygurl888 > Whether one doesn't understand you or not, there is no need to answer back in a smart or sarcastic manner. The answer from you should've been, "Moocher's list is of all BB cartoons. I'm only interested in cartoons that are in the public domain, meaning no one owns them. Thanks for trying to help me." There is a civil way to conduct postings.

The Moocher might be able to help with identifying the ones in PD.
I did not use sarcasm anywhere. I did say I was looking for the public domain cartoons and she still insisted she was right.

You people are being rude to ME by lecturing me like an uneducated cretin.

[mgchan]

In the posting of messages, sometimes the message is not clear or misinterpreted. It's not the same as in a face-to-face discussion where it's easy to go back and forth to clearify. Even the typing of a response may not be the tone one really wants.

You need to lighten up. No one is being rude to you.

[vallygurl888]

In the posting of messages, sometimes the message is not clear or misinterpreted. It's not the same as in a face-to-face discussion where it's easy to go back and forth to clearify. Even the typing of a response may not be the tone one really wants.

You need to lighten up. No one is being rude to you.
Then I'm not being rude to everyone else. Why doesn't everyone else lighten up?

[bettyboopfan]

I did not use sarcasm anywhere. I did say I was looking for the public domain cartoons and she still insisted she was right.

You people are being rude to ME by lecturing me like an uneducated cretin.

Vallygurl888> I never insisted that I was right. I was just stating that I understand what this thread is about. And no, I did not list any info about anything in the Public Domain but I did post a link to some very helpful information that Mooch has posted. I do not recall what all is in the thread by Mooch because it has been some time since I went through it. I thought by posting the link maybe you could read through and see if there was anything in there that might be helpful to you.

That is my job here at the forum, try to help new members find their way around on the board. If they have any questions, try to help them the best that I can or redirect them somewhere where they may find the answers they were looking for. That is all I was doing, being friendly, doing my job and trying to help out another member.

[vallygurl888]

Yeah, nice job editing your first post. If I didn't know any better, I would totally think that I was wrong and an idiot too. Too bad I know what you originally wrote. Someone must have real problems admitting they are wrong if they would edit a post just to avoid admitting it to a stranger on the internet.

I'm not going to respond to post that aren't relevant to this thread. You can argue amongst yourselves.

[bettyboopfan]

Yeah, nice job editing your first post. If I didn't know any better, I would totally think that I was wrong and an idiot too. Too bad I know what you originally wrote. Someone must have real problems admitting they are wrong if they would edit a post just to avoid admitting it to a stranger on the internet.

I'm not going to respond to post that aren't relevant to this thread. You can argue amongst yourselves.

The ORIGINAL post said "This is listed with other information at this link"Referring to the quote was listed there with other information.

Then I realized that you were confused by my posting. So all I did was
I changed it to clear up any confusion to "The following QUOTE is posted with other information at this link"

That is it!! Nothing more and nothing less!

I have no idea what your intention is coming on her and being so rude and hateful. This is a very friendly forum and we all get along great.
For you to come here and tell me I have problems is completely unacceptable.

I do not know what you think I am not admitting.
I never said I knew anything about anything in the public domain.
All I was trying to do was redirect you to a link to where some helpful information was located.

Obvisiouly you have problems with me for making one small mistake in making my post clear and understandable. I do not know what else to tell you except mistakes happen.

I am through discussing this matter with you. I hope you find a way to enjoy yourself here at the forum.

[mgchan]

vallygurl888 > You seem to have a chip on your shoulder. Either remove the chip when you're here on the forums or take it someplace else. Your attitude and rudeness will not be tolerated here.

[The Moocher]

I've been away for a few days and missed this.

Regetfully I do not have a list of all the Betty Boop cartoons that are in the public domain. The precise ownership of Betty Boop cartoons, Betty Boop images and the Betty Boop trademark is a complex legal issue.

As a general rule of thumb, most cartoon made before 1939 are probably in the public domain.

The Internet Archive (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive) holds 22 public domain Betty Boop cartoons. The Director of the Internet Archive, Steven Worth, sometimes posts here as asifaarchive. Possibly he could be of further help.

Incedently, I don't think the Kids in the Shoe is a Betty Boop Cartoon. I'm not sure about Sin for Your Sinners. I think this might have been a Screen Song, but I don't know if it featured Betty.

I would be amazed if Betty Boop's Hollywood Mystery were in the public domain. Last I heard it was owned by the Disney Cartoon Channel.

Mooch

M

[vallygurl888]

Thank you. I've already been to achive.org so I know what they have.

[The Moocher]

Yes, that's an excellent resource. You can sometimes find other shorts on DVD (for example The Ultimate Collection) although the quality is variable. There are also pay to download sites such as LikeTelevision that may have other shorts, although most simply charge for what the Internet Archive gives for free.

With regard to the original question, if anyone has a definitive list of what Betty Boop cartoons, screen songs and talkartoons are in the public domain, it is probably the Internet Archive.

Remember that this situation is complicated by colorization and remastering. Black and white originals may be in the public domain while colorized versions of the same cartoon may not. Also if a cartoon in the public domain is remastered, the original may be in the public domain, but the remastered version may not.

I'm sorry I can't give a more definitive answer.

Mooch

[someone200]

wow, Mooch, you sure know how to calm down a fight GOOD JOB! ^_-

Is Hot Dog a Betty Cartoon? I never heard of it before

[someone200]

The following QUOTE is posted with other information at this link:
http://www.bettyboop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2078

I think that's great information! It even has pictures! ;) :D thanks :P

[someone200]

were you wanting cartoons w/o betty as well?